Now that the COVID19 vaccine is out, the anti-vaccination crowd has started their nonsense about the vaccine. Some of their myths just don’t fly, but they are now doing a new myth:

Isn’t this just too soon – or we rolled this vaccine out too soon. Nothing could be further from the truth. The mRNA vaccine has 50 years of basic research behind it, 10 years of applied research behind it, and several months of testing. In addition, it had animal testing, phase one toxicity testing, phase two testing for dose, and phase three testing to see if it works. After that it was two months – now three, of follow up. Which means, there has been more testing on this vaccine than any other vaccine.

That is the most popular myth, where people are wanting to wait to get it. I didn’t wait, I worked hard to get it and my vaccine was given on December 18th, and second dose is going to be on January 8th. I am happy to be vaccinated, and often wonder why others would wait.

COVID19 is worse than the vaccine.

Transcript of podcast

Dr. Simpson:

Sugar, fat pen, a bit of genetic material. Can you guess what that is? Those are the common ingredients in your everyday donut. Yep. Donuts have genetic material and the mostly contaminant, meaning bits of the person who made your donut in the dough, or maybe a little bacteria, which is everywhere. And then there’s the DNA from the flour and the yeast and other plant-based food additives. But that same list of ingredients, salt, water, sugar, fat, and genetic material are the ingredients and the new MRI and a COVID vaccine. That’s currently being administered worldwide. And that I got just yesterday. Now the vaccine is not a donut and it won’t make you taste like one, but there are a lot of myths out there about what the vaccine contains and about what the vaccine can do to your body and how fast the vaccine was rolled out. And, you know, I just love busting myths.

Dr. Simpson: My name is Dr. Terry Simpson, and this is Your Doctor’s Orders. Dedicating to busting myths. And spreading science, virally.

Dr. Simpson: Well, the anti-vaccination crowd is already revving up the misinformation machine about the new mRNA COVID-19 vaccines. My inbox is full of people forwarding to me, fake science videos. And appeals like, “watch this and get the truth out about the vaccine before the government or big media or bill Gates takes it down.”

I mean, if someone had really discovered the evil secret of the vaccine, you think they’d use a better news dissemination vehicle than email spam, right? Or my messenger on Facebook.

So let’s get rid of a few of those myths right now because you, and almost everyone, you know, should get this vaccine. And pretty much every vaccine offered, but let’s stay focused shall we.

So here to help me with that is my good friend, and the people who helped my podcast, Evo Terra from Simpler Media

Evo Terra:

Indeed. Well, let’s get into some of those myths, recently vaccinated Dr. Terry Simpson, once again, lucky bastard, but again, as a frontline healthcare worker, we are all very happy that people like you can now, uh, or will soon be able to do some work in there without the risks.

But, but speaking of that, that leads me to probably the first myth that, uh, that I have here for you that I have heard. And I believe I’ve heard this from our, the fine Senator from Kentucky.

Dr. Simpson:

Do they have a fine Senator in Kentucky?

Evo Terra:

No, not really. Neither of them are, but this one happens to be from Senator Rand Paul, which I will let you into his, uh, lovely, uh, credentials as a well, someone who can claim to the word “doctor,” but here’s the myth that Senator Rand, Paul has propagated: that is that there is a 99.5% chance of surviving the virus. And for most of it, it’s just a cold. So there’s no need for us to get the vaccine because also immunity, natural immunity that our bodies give us once we’ve contracted this deadly disease, uh, is much better than the vaccine. What say you to the Senator from Kentucky?

Dr. Simpson:

All right, well, first there are two myths in there and let’s go over. So if anybody thinks that because he’s a Senator and an ophthalmologist that he’s an expert, there’s a wide difference between someone who’s an ophthalmologist who isn’t actually boarded an ophthalmology, who’s now a politician who doesn’t understand science. And unfortunately ,Rand Paul was a waste of a medical degree.

So here’s the thing. We know your risk of dying. If you catch COVID. And we know that because we keep track of people, who’ve gotten COVID and who recover from COVID or who die from COVID. If you get COVID-19, you have 3% chance of dying more if you’re older sicker, but overall it’s a 3% chance, which means

Evo Terra:

3%. Let me just interrupt you here. 3% is a bigger number, then 0.5%. So it’s not a 99.5% survival rate. You’re saying it’s more like a 97% survival rate

Dr. Simpson:

But wait, there’s more !

Here’s the thing: 10% of all, patients who develop COVID-19 will require hospitalization. So that means you have a one in 10 chance of being admitted to the hospital and seeing someone like me and 27% of the people with COVID-19 who have been hospitalized and discharged within the next 30 days have died.

And about 10% of the people overall, who contract COVID, whether they’re hospitalized, or not, are left with long-term, meaning greater than six months, disability from it. So it’s not a cold. It’s not something you want to lead to chance.

It’s not your body’s natural immune system. If you think that escaping from the plague is just going to get a little sniffle and you’re going to be on with it. That’s just not true. The other part of that myth that’s bad is by saying, well, getting the disease means you will get your own natural immunity.  It’s not that good. The immunity we get from COVID-19 is not that good as has been demonstrated by people who’ve gotten it again.

The reason is is that the virus, when it infects you hides in your cells, makes more viruses, infects other cells and gets in them. Standard infection doesn’t have a chance to boost much of an immune response as much as the vaccine we have. Now it’s targeted. It’s like it lasers into that one part of the virus that’s required for it to infect human cells. So it not only it from getting in human cells, but it attacks it and will allow your body to get rid of it. So if you want to get rid of the virus, don’t get it. I mean, do you want a 3% chance of dying? A 10% chance of being in the hospital and, and let’s, let’s take the people who are younger than you and I have people in the 18 to 34 group when they looked at 3000 of those people, kids 20% of those required intensive care. And 3% of that group went in the hospital, died, get the vaccine.

And you know, this is true with every single disease state out there. People say, well, get the measles. You don’t need to get the vaccine. That’s not true. If you’ve had the measles, when you were young, as I did, cause I’m of that age, I have to get the vaccine. My immunity wears out as time goes on your immune system’s memory wears out. That’s why we need vaccines and boosters.

But vaccines, and every single case we’ve looked at that have been approved ,are far better than getting the disease. Not only from the perspective of it’s sucks to get sick, but vaccines produces a much better antibody.

Evo Terra:

Myth number two. And that is that doctor, there is a chance I might get COVID-19 from the COVID-19 vaccine. Any truth to that?

Dr. Simpson:

None because what I got injected in me yesterday was this little bit of messenger RNA vaccine, but it doesn’t contain the virus itself. It contains the instruction for some of my cells to make copies of a little tiny of one of the 29 proteins on the COVID 19.

So basically that little injection is more like sending a wanted poster to a bounty Hunter. The bounty Hunter is your immune system. There is no virus in there. There is a piece of the virus and now the immune system has seen that piece. It now revs up. It’s like, it has that, what’s that double Oh seven license to kill. So yeah, get the vaccine. You’re not going to get the COVID from the shot.

Evo Terra:

And number three will actually, there’s a lot of number threes here. Cause I it’s hard to put words to these myths. I’ve heard them so many, but basically they all boil down to this that “this vaccine that we did at a record speed has not been tested enough. And perhaps is even being rolled out too quickly.” What say you

Dr. Simpson:

Well, So there’s a whole bunch of answers to that. And it kind of goes like this; in the testing period of this vaccine for both the Madrona and the Pfizer, which are the ones that have been approved on emergency use authorization, there been over 74,000 individuals tested with this vaccine worldwide. We have followed those individuals for at least two months. It is an ongoing study. So we will continue following those people for months.

That is a huge number that is far more than any of these people who’ve propagated the myths of hydroxychloroquine being a good thing. This is a huge number of people that have been followed up.

Finally, the second part of that myth is, is that while it’s an emergency use authorization and maybe we should wait, we have a frigging plague. We have over 3,200 people dying that day and we waited two extra months to roll out this vaccine.

We could have rolled it out earlier just because people wanted to see what happens two months after the last person gets the last dose. And again, it’s an ongoing study. So we now have even more data about it. You know, this mRNA  vaccine that we have, and there’ll be other vaccines coming up is a product of 50 years of basic research. 10 years of applied research.

The polio vaccine, when it came out, it came out when I was exceedingly young, but it had about five years of basic and applied research. And so it’s been a lot of work over a lot of time.

In our last podcast, we talked about the excitement of that mRNA vaccine. So yeah, this is, this has been, there is a lot of work. It hasn’t been rolled out too quickly. It could have been rolled out sooner. And boy, I wish we could make more quicker.

Evo Terra:

So parallel to that, uh, is the thought that some people have this say, I get everything you’ve said about this, this research, but we’ve never actually used messenger RNA. We’ve never made a mRNA vaccine before, is that right?

Dr. Simpson:

People say, they do say that, but they’re wrong because we have one of the first virus vaccines we made with mRNA technology was against another coronavirus called MERS, which is Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome. That is a disease that people get in the middle East. It is about a 30 to 40% mortality and a mRNA vaccine was developed for that. There’s also been a mRNA vaccine developed for rabies and there’s been one developer Zika.

And in the very near future, we will have mRNA vaccines for influenza, which will have a high degree of specificity to the antibody antigens. We want meaning, you know, now they say the influence of vaccines are 50 to 60% effective. And we’re pretty happy with that. The ones that are coming out with mRNA technology will be far more specific than them. So we’ve used it before. We’ve used mRNA and a lot of technology before it’s not new.

Evo Terra:

Well, I’m definitely excited to talk about how we can improve the flu vaccine, but first let’s get rid of one this pandemic

Dr. Simpson:

First, obviously we need to put our attention there

Evo Terra:

I’ve often heard people say that. And you mentioned MERS, which was originally found in camels and transmitted to people. Zika comes from mosquitoes, uh, but speaking of animals, where’s the animal testing Dr. Simpson, this vaccine and Dr. Fauci himself passed on animal testing “they” say.

Dr. Simpson:

Well, first Dr. Fauci has nothing to do with the vaccine studies. He has nothing to do with how the studies are done, but the first steps that were done in the vaccine and they are published in the literature for those people who say it, all they have to do is do maybe a little Google search. The first trials of the mRNA vaccines were done in mice, and then they were done in monkeys and they were very excited. Now at the time, for those who followed our podcasts, you know, we were saying, well, you know, that it works in mice is okay, that it works as monkeys is okay, but it’s still not human. So we looked at animals and by the way, those primates that were injected with that months and months, and months ago, they’re still happily going along, living their little monkey lives and doing just fine. They have not grown new horns or tails or things like that. But everybody likes to blame Dr. Fauci, just like bill Gates and George Soros, as you know,

Evo Terra:

We’ll get to that in a minute. But speaking of this concept of the testing, we’ve been through great, say the naysayers out there, scientists have said, they’ve tested it enough, but what about the FDA? The regulatory body that approves drugs in America did the FDA do enough testing of this vaccine?

Dr. Simpson: So the FDA had three sets of trials that they do for every drug and every vaccine, the first trial that’s done is the trial where we see is it toxic to people because just because the animals had it and were fine, doesn’t mean people will have it. So the first group of volunteers is usually hungry graduate students that you give a meal to and say, Hey, we’re going to inject you with this. And they say, is that pizza? Yeah, I’ll take it. That’s the first set of trials. And those trials are published. It shows that there was no toxicity.

The second set of human trials that were done were to say, what is the dose that we need for this virus? That trial just came out in the new England journal of medicine, phase two, the results of the trial published.

Phase three trial is the trial that just ended to determine how effective is the virus in the world.

So what they did is they infected in the Pfizer group, 144,000 people. 72,000 of them had the COVID vaccine. 72,000 of them had the placebo. They said, go out in the world, be careful. And as soon as they came out with a statistically significant number of infections, which was 135, they graded the infection. How bad was your COVID? Are you dead to ICU? Or did you sniffles? And then they broke the code to see who had the vaccine and who didn’t 95% of the COVID 19 infections came in. The people who had the placebo 5% were in those who had the vaccine and of those 5%, they were all graded as mild, mild COVID-19 infection.

So it is a pretty good and rigorous amount of studying that was done. I think that, you know, anybody who looks at the data and looks at the huge number of people over there was in, it was done in South America. It was done in North America was done in Europe and huge diversity of individuals involved will say, wow, that’s, that’s great. What scientists wanted, what Fahcj said months ago was by, gosh, if we could get a 50% efficacious vaccine, we would love that. Well, we have a 95%. I mean, this is, this is awesome.

Evo Terra:

Great. So not a, not an FDA rubber stamp at all. Plenty of good data that the FDA has accepted and said, yes, this is the kind of rigor we’re looking for.

Dr. Simpson:

In fact, that’s even more rigorous. Well, I mean, think about it in 2009, we had the swine flu H1N1. We did emergency use authorization for that vaccine. It was out and in the public in six months. So this is not the fastest vaccine that’s ever gotten out there. We’ve done it. We’ve done it faster before. I imagine if we could have done this vaccine back in June, I imagine the number of lives that we would save.

Evo Terra:

So there’s another myth out there that mRNA, messenger RNA, which sounds a whole lot like DNA, that particular vaccine that we have might alter one’s DNA. And if, of course, if one’s DNA is altered, people like me who watched too much science fiction and our brains flashback to a Jeff Goldblum’s character in the fly or the fly DNA was merged with the human DNA. And we got that disgusting creature.

Dr. Simpson:

I thought Jeff Goldblum looked better as a fly than he did as Jeff Goldblum.

Evo Terra:

Well, he’s definitely improved with age, but any truth will this mRNA a virus alter our DNA.

Dr. Simpson:

mRNA is out in the, what we call the cytoplasm of the cell. So if you think of a cell, like a sunny side up egg, the egg white being the cytoplasm. The nucleus, where the DNA is being the yolk. mRNA cannot travel into the DNA, core and alternate at all. That’s not how mRNA works. Secondly, when you get mRNA,  your cells immediately trying to break it down. We have a lot of mechanisms to breaking down mRNA and in a cell. So that was one of the technical challenges is how can you get this?

But you know, it can breach your cell DNA. The COVID19 virus, SARS-COV-2 virus. There were reports that were issued today out of South Africa, where they found that the SARS-COV-2, the virus now not the mRNA can actually breach the cell and reach the DNA. So if you’re worried about DNA being altered, get the vaccine.

Evo Terra:

That’s what the virus is doing. You’re saying, Oh, not a, not a good thing. Well, let’s stick with the mRNA name is another one that I’ve heard is that this messenger RNA, which tells, you know, things to do is giving a message to the cells that they have to make proteins, but that’s going to spiral out of control and we’re going to make too much protein or something. I guess what’s the likelihood that the mRNA introduced by this vaccine could have your cell spiral out of control.

Dr. Simpson:

Well, you know, I social media, yes. Well, I don’t use Snapchat. I used it for like a day and decided, well, there’s no, there’s no value in this, but the mRNA is like a Snapchat chat message. You get it. It gives the message and it’s degraded almost right away from the cell. It can’t make more protein. I mean, if it could, we would have the answer to world hunger. We could make porterhouse steaks in our, you know, in our kitchen instead of having to have cows. But no, mRNA is degraded almost instantly. It’s like the Snapchat, as opposed to the Instagram, which you know, is there forever? All right,

Evo Terra:

Bring up the craziest myth I’ve heard thus far. And I’ve no idea how this connects, but it is this. Where are you putting that? Because this requires, it’s even hard for me to say this aloud, but some people have this crazy notion in their head and maybe you’ll tell me what’s crazy or not that the vaccine that you just got yesterday, and we’re all going to get some time in the next six months contains, and I can’t wait. I’m going to say this out loud, aborted lung tissue. What?

Dr. Simpson:

Yes, that is one of those very untrue statements that is being made all over the internet, especially by those people who are high in the anti-vaccination crowd. So it has mRNA vaccine has nothing to do with cell culture. But cell cultures are used to make other vaccines. So the mRNA technology, there is no cell culture. There is aborted fetal parts. There’s no body parts. You will not turn into anything evil. You’re not, you’re not propagating abortions if you do that.

But let’s talk about where this myth came from. Cause I think it’s important to put it in context. To grow viruses, and I grow viruses in my past, you have to grow them in cells because the virus has grow inside cells. They take over their mechanism, use their mechanism to grow more viruses. And that’s how you grow the viruses in a laboratory.

So we can grow viruses in  chicken eggs. That’s how we grow influenza viruses. There are cell lines that are made out of monkey parts. There are human cell lines, probably the most famous human cell line is from, uh, Henrietta Lanks from, uh, uh, you know, that movie long ago, the woman who had cervical cancer, whose cell line has lived on forever and created many.

And about 50 years ago, there was a legally aborted fetus from the UK. And one from Sweden that some of the lung tissue fibroblasts have been used for cell lines. And we have used those for cell lines for these 50 years, they have been used for the rabies vaccine. They have been used for the mumps vaccine. That cell line has saved thousands of lives. So you’re not aborting a baby. Every time you take a vaccine, these were something that was done 50 years ago and that fetus’s life has saved millions of people on the planet.

So that would be like saying, wow, we don’t want to perpetuate murder. So we shouldn’t have transplantation. So think about it. You know, I’m donor. If I die, they get my liver lungs, eyes and everything like that. So hopefully I can help someone else. Fortunately, that has come to a very, very good use, but the mRNA vaccine, the anti-vaxxers love rubbing up the evangelical Christians by saying, Oh my God, we’re not going to take the vaccine because we’re helping abortion. And that’s just not true. And it’s evil. It is evil that they say that evil, that they think of it. And even more evil that they don’t understand how lives have been saved by the fetal fibroblasts of those two fetuses.

This mRNA vaccine we are taking to stop COVID-19 is not made with any human body parts whatsoever. Your body parts will make it. So my body parts right now in my little arm and my deltoid muscle, which almost bent the needle going in, in my muscle, my body is now making the spike protein for that. So my body part is making it. And then my other body parts, you can say, wait a minute, we don’t like this protein. It’s foreign. We’re going to make antibodies against it. So if I encounter somebody with a virus, well, my body is already revved up and ready to go

Evo Terra: EXCELLENT, and running down the end of these things is that staying with the evils of the vaccine itself, that that vaccine contains toxic compounds. And we are somehow injecting our body with poisons. We must be aware.

Dr. Simpson:

Yeah, they always like saying it. You have formaldehyde. And it’s like, you get more formaldehyde eating a peach, or you get aluminum. And it’s like, that’s the third, most common metal or mercury via Thiomerasol. And it’s like, no, that’s different than the mercury that kills you. But in spite of that, none of those compounds, which are used as preservatives, that a number of virus vaccines are in this vaccine. What preserves this, this cold. So this vaccine was kept at minus 70 degrees Celsius brought to the hospital where I think thought it out and injected in my arm. My arm was not injected with freezing cold vaccine. And that’s how it’s preserved because it’s preserved at that. They do not need to put anything in there to preserve it, by the way, you know what else we put all of those little preservatives in almost everything that you eat or drink that has some lack of shelf. Life is preserved with something that can be toxic in high concentrations

Evo Terra: But certainly not in this particular vaccine

Dr. Simpson: In this one at all. So if you’re worried about those compounds, cause you think those compounds will do evil. Number one, two small dose to do evil in any of the vaccines that have them. And number two, they are not in this vaccine. So get this vaccine

Evo Terra: Last crazy notion here that the tin hatters believe in that this vaccine that you just got yesterday contains some sort of a microchip that allows either the U S government, perhaps the shadow world government perhaps ran by a bill Gates, uh, is now able to track you and everything that you do for the rest of your days.

Dr. Simpson: Wouldn’t that be nice? That I would be so interesting to any of those people that they would want to track me. Wouldn’t that be? Wouldn’t that be nice? Because if that were the case, we would not be doing this podcast. We would be doing some other nefarious things, which we probably have done in the past anyway, but number one, you have a tracking device. It’s not the vaccine that you get at your mobile phone, your mobile phone tracks you everywhere. And if someone wants to find out where you are, like my wife can find out where I am. Now she can hit the mobile phone, look up, find you in there. He sitting up here talking to Evo instead of doing the dishes. And while technology is pretty good about putting the RFIDs in and other things like that, pretty much those things are about the size of the smallest we’ve got. It was about the size of a grain of rice. And, uh, they didn’t inject that into me. I can, I can that won’t even pass through a syringe, but yeah, it’s, it’s that, that whole tracking thing is like, really, it’s not you, you little anti-vaxxer are so interesting that Bill Gates wants to know where you are. I mean, you know, he could just check you with windows 95 or whatever they’re up to now

Evo Terra:

I think it’s a few revelations beyond that last bit of advice here. I think after all of those myths, you’ve clearly seen a bunk. Do you have a single message for the listening audience out there?

Dr. Simpson: One of the more common questions I’ve been getting is which vaccine do you think you didn’t get? Cause Moderna was just approved yesterday. I got the Pfizer. The answer is the first one you can get your hands or arms on and someone will inject. You get it. It doesn’t matter. They are both terribly effective. And you know, everybody is sort of saying, well, it wasn’t operation warp speed. Wonderful. And it’s like, you know, it was, but they missed an important point.

Nobody talks about this operational warp speed was supposed to be so that we were to pre-buy all of the vaccine. So it was pre-manufactured so that when it got approved, we would have it ready. We would have a hundred million doses ready today, 200 million from in the Moderna yesterday. So two to 300 million doses, you know, we don’t have that. And the reason we don’t have that as our government, which is currently being run by people who think their businesses and said, Oh, you know what? \We will pay you. If it passes FDA approval. The real idea of operation web speed is let’s spend a couple billion bucks. It’s not that much. You guys make it. You make the vaccine. If we lose, we’ve lost a couple billion bucks, but if we have one, if this is good, as you say it is, we will be able to distribute 300 million doses of vaccine the day it’s approved. And they didn’t do that because they were just too smart, a businessman. So unfortunately people like me got one, but people like you didn’t and you will have to wait for a couple of months until we get this. And so if you, if you can get ahold of any vaccine and they can give it to you, please take it. I wish we could blanket the country in this, right? Because we’re getting slaughtered out here, our ICU.  So we’re, we’re in a small County in California. Our ICU’s are filled. We have people in the ER and we’re just beginning to see this.

So this is, this is an Oh. And the other one that came up recently was, well, we’re going to still have to wear masks after this because this virus vaccine doesn’t keep you from getting the virus. And it’s like, no, it doesn’t. The vaccines never keep you from getting the infection. It’s like a fire hydrant. Doesn’t keep your house from burning down. What a vaccine does is give your immune system that head start so that it can rub up against the vaccine and make it so you don’t even know you had it so you can still get it. You still may have small asymptomatic things. And we don’t know if you’ll be able to pass that bit on or not hard to know, not something we will know for years from now, but really the sooner we can get this, the better keep wearing your mask, keep washing your hands. Please stay inside all that.

Dr. Simpson: So some final points, you know, I was lucky to be one of the first people in our country to get the COVID-19 vaccine. And right now, in our intensive care units, we have people who are dying from this disease. In fact, we’re seeing around the country, a slaughter, unlike anyone living has ever seen. And while some anti-vaccination folks and COVID deniers want to say that we don’t see any death, extra deaths this year, they’re just wrong. I mean, check the CDC website. They’re wrong. This vaccine is really the only thing left that will save us. And while most wear masks and social distance and do the right thing, this virus has still gotten out of control throughout this country On our scale of science, where five is great science, and one is nonsense, or non-science the Pfizer and wilderness vaccines. Get a five out of five. Get the vaccine.

Thank you for listening to this edition of your doctor’s orders podcast, a transcript and more information are available on our blog, your doctor’s orders.com. And while I am a doctor, I’m probably not your doctor. While I have you here. Get the vaccine, whichever one you can, as soon as you can then get your family members, especially those most vulnerable to get it to your doctor’s orders. Podcast is distributed and edited by my friends at simpler media with special health from Evo Terra, the pod God. My producer is @producergirl, who is taking time out of producing shows to do this and another podcast called
Eat My Globe” with my other friend, Simon Majumdar. I have two friends Eva and Simon Majumdar. until next time don’t drink the water, drink the wine.

Hey Evo You and I have been fighting the anti-vaccination crowd for years yet. They still persist. So seeds of doubt and not only doubt, but outright lies. Meanwhile, we’re getting slaughtered out here by COVID-19 and never has science been more important. So stay safe, my friend, and get the vaccine as soon as you can.

Evo:

Thank you very much for that. But, um, you do know that I’m like right here next to you, right?

(hint, he was 700 miles away, but maybe that’s close)